CityClub on Twitter - live from events!

One challenge we've discovered with Twitter - though we love it - is how to direct folks to the feed from a program after the event has passed. Direct linking to single tweets is possible, but can you also direct link to an entire day of tweets?

There's been some demand, so this is a call - if you have tips or know where we can find the answer, please comment! Currently we've signed up for LoudTwitter, a program that aggregates all your tweets from one day and sends them to you, time-stamped, in email form, at a time of day you pre-select. (We're getting our LoudTwitter email once a day at 11 p.m.)

For now, the blog provides an easy outlet for this collection of Tweets. After a bit of a fight with the copy and paste feature in our blogging tool, we're ready to share. The feed below covers the entire length of the program.

...and while we're speaking of Twitter, our feed was mentioned at CHS Capitol Hill Seattle Blog a few days ago! Justin Carder, panelist for our "Tough Times in the Livable City" panel, used feed from that program when discussing Michael McGinn's announcement that he's running for mayor. Check it out!


•    09:43 We'll be tweeting from our privacy forum at noon, so check back around noon! #
•    12:17 Are you ready? As always, if you have questions tweet them at us - we'll try to get them answered! #
•    12:18 Brush up on panelists and topic: tinyurl.com/ck5uvo #
•    12:20 C.R.'s plugging a later Seattle Channel program about the city's snow response! That will be interesting. #
•    12:22 CR introducing the topic (most interesting, about establishing ground rules for privacy online) and introducing the panelists. #
•    12:23 To Brueggerman: Tell us what AT&T is doing! #
•    12:24 Brueggeman: Talking up personalized experience that comes with sharing online, social networking etc. #
•    12:25 AT&T started talking about privacy policy last summer - "what is the right way to deal with this so that the customers get the benefit?" #
•    12:25 To McKenna: What is your worry? McKenna -- worry about young people on the internet esp. with so many problems with online predators. #
•    12:26 Have negotiated agreements with Myspace, Facebook. #
•    12:27 Not just predators but also each other -- online bullying, misuse of info. #
•    12:27 Second concern is consumer protection. Seen big increase in online marketing; large increase in complaints. #
•    12:28 Discussing "free to pay" services - services that start out free and consumers don't realize they will be charged eventually, etc. #
•    12:28 Working on negotiation, legislation and public education. #
•    12:29 Klunder @ ACLU - concerned about growth of personal info collected by corporations. #
•    12:29 "When we're sitting at home on the internet" we feel more like things are private, but that may be where we're watched most. #
•    12:29 Concerned about "how info flows" and who has control of it. Very concerned when advertising info flows to government agencies. #
•    12:30 It's been very difficult to find out how government is using the info, if/how they create "watch lists." #
•    12:31 CR went to Monica's facebook this morning! To Monica: Do you worry about all the stuff on facebook? #
•    12:31 Monica: "I feel very comfortable with my own ability to know what I want to share and what I don't want to share." #
•    12:32 Discussing Facebook's gradient privacy settings, "don't post anything I wouldn't want to see on a blog somewhere." #
•    12:33 Talking about whether or not younger generations WANT targeted advertising. #
•    12:34 To Brueggeman: Explain targeted advertising / behavioral and interest based #
•    12:34 "When you go from NBC.com to ESPN.com it's not intuitive to you that someone is making a connection in that behavior." #
•    12:35 Advertising systems working in the background of webpages can track your surfing. "Google is at least annoucing they're doing it." #
•    12:36 McKenna: I recognize that tracking is made possible by voluntary behavior on the part of the user. #
•    12:36 "The question is are you moving around in a public space or a private space when you do that?" (McKenna) #
•    12:37 "We're struggling to come to grips with the balance between the convenience of the internet and the idea that someone is keeping track" #
•    12:38 Discussing how we have given this information freely - idea of "celebrity" or "narcissism" vs innate desire for privacy. #
•    12:38 "Have we all provided so much information that it's really too late?" (McKenna) #
•    12:39 McKenna prefers "opt-in" -- that you MUST actively choose to let your information be shared. #
•    12:40 European young people are also choosing to "opt-in" and share a lot of information. #
•    12:41 @moniguzman is tweeting while she's on the panel. #
•    12:41 CR is asking about, "Do you know where your tweets go?" #
•    12:42 CR: "The kids seemed to like this" interest based advertising. #
•    12:42 Monica suggests young people are okay with this because "we haven't been in the world long enough" to understand the consequences. #
•    12:42 Or to have accumulated things that could be used against us. #
•    12:43 Klunder: Do companies know what's in your email, can they use it to track you? #
•    12:43 Klunder: Google has pushed the envelope with GMail service. Scanning emails to provide targeted ads. Otherwise mostly email considered safe. #
•    12:44 GMail ads so far not as successful as Google hoped, according to Klunder. #
•    12:44 Klunder: "It's not entirely clear if opt-in is legally required." #
•    12:45 Response to McKenna: "We've voluntarily provided this information for specific purposes." Not assuming your info will be shared w/o consent. #
•    12:46 Monica interjecting with Facebook uproar re: uploaded photos, etc. #
•    12:46 Young people still don't want info shared for unknown purposes without consent. #
•    12:47 McKenna: "We still have a strong concept of privacy around our communications." Email should be much more private, vs a blog post. #
•    12:47 Should email be where the line is drawn? Re: email and advertising. #
•    12:49 McKenna discussing legislation to creat more of an "opt-in" regime -- rather than a buried check-box to opt-out. More conscious choice. #
•    12:50 Klunder: I" think it's a spiral. Governments aren't nearly as good at collecting information as private entities are." \ #
•    12:50 Klunder: But they can GET it from the private entities. #
•    12:51 To Brueggeman: policies about locating people by phone tracking? #
•    12:52 Brueggeman: the new times of info (re: geolocation) - this policy/opinion is still evolving - "as a provider we're looking for clear rules" #
•    12:52 Brueggeman: Would rather have customers/legislation telling them what is desired. #
•    12:53 Can the industry self-regulate? #
•    12:55 To Klunder. What about the info that is on dating sites: ever a concern from the ACLU about that info? #
•    12:56 Klunder: That's a great example of putting info out there for a very specific purpose, but not expecting it to be yanked for other purposes. #
•    12:56 Monica: "The internet moves so much faster than the law." #
•    12:58 Monica: discussing companies trying to getting in on social networking. Starting Twitter and Facebook accounts, etc. #
•    12:59 Audience question time - anyone? #
•    13:00 Peter Wilson from Google is in the audience, up at the audience mic to offer a little defense! #
•    13:00 Talking about the value of targeting ads. Speaking as an "individual and a father." #
•    13:02 Klunder: "What Google is doing isn't radically different than other companies" - we tend to pick on them because they are the big guys. #
•    13:03 Klunder: websites that are all using the same ad server can track all your activity throught he ad server. #
•    13:04 Klunder: They may start with only your IP address, but at some point you'll give more information and then they can link the two. #
•    13:04 To McKenna: questions of identity theft. #
•    13:04 Most ID theft starts with phishing emails. #
•    13:05 Bigger concern is data breach: someone we've entrusted with our information LOSES it - accounts for a third of ID theft. #
•    13:05 McKenna: Working with companies to protect that information. #
•    13:07 Klunder: bigger ID theft concern is people getting arrested/convicted and giving someone else's name. #
•    13:08 Brueggeman: There is an opportunity for the industry to help customers learn to protect themselves and improve security. #
•    13:09 Audience question for McKenna - what can you do different state by state vs nationally? #
•    13:09 McKenna: "Feds are really far behind when it comes to adopting national standards." #
•    13:13 Klunder: Need to develop new social norms. These things are new, we're still figuring out these things; no historical comparison. #
•    13:13 Klunder: "Is an IM like talking to a friend or writing a letter?" Until we figure this out, regulation might not work. #
•    13:14 Guzman: Everyone's looking for an answer but there isn't one. #
•    13:15 Guzman: telling story of friend who was captured by Google Earth and LOVED it. #
•    13:16 @mylesfong McKenna: certainly people who are "creeped out" by pictures at street level and satellite. "People are culturally ambivalent." #
•    13:16 McKenna: I think that because people don't see nefarious implications, there hasn't been a blowback. Still exploring where those lines are. #
•    13:16 Brueggeman: "Information doesn't go away anymore." #
•    13:17 Brueggeman: "My daughter has a google entry, and she's 9." #
•    13:18 @mylesfong Got your first question asked; sounds like nobody on the panel is too concerned now; back to the idea of transition/new standards #
•    13:20 Panelists now giving advice to audience member who asked details about how to be safe; what are the worst things out there? #
•    13:23 Audience question: What are you working on or what can we do for ourselves to protect our right to/expectation of privacy from govt? #
•    13:23 Audience member asks, "Who are you suing?" Laughter all around. #
•    13:23 Klunder: Washington State has more protections than many other states. Local govt is somewhat prohibited from accessing information. #
•    13:25 Klunder: "Most important thing you can do is throw away your cell phone." Tracking device, "you might as well have a beacon in your pocket." #
•    13:25 "They know where your phone is and where it HAS been." #
•    13:26 Brueggeman: GPS information is there that can be used by law enforcement. If our customers are concerned about this we wnat to know. #
•    13:26 McKenna: We're conflicted about what we want re: technology vs. privacy. #
•    13:27 McKenna: "Not particularly optimistic about personal privacy" in the coming years. Technology will move past any laws that get made. #
•    13:28 Thanks for sticking around for our program - we'll link video as soon as it's uploaded to TVW.org! Happy Friday, all. #
•    15:14 We're moving this weekend, so we'll be unreachable by phone or email. Please hold tight! We should be back up and operational by March 24. # Share